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Filling Potholes? No. Filling Homeless Shelter Pantries? No. Filling Past Bad Investments made by overzealous underwriters? Yes

11. July 2008

Just read about IndyMac and it reminded me of something I saw and marked..

 Saw this the other day and saved it to delicious.  It is the timeline of a house purchase in California.  Click to read more about specific house here.  The time line is what is interesting:

 

  • On 1/8/2004 the property was purchased for $465,000 with a $372,000 first mortgage, a $46,500 second mortgage and a $46,500 downpayment.
  • On 3/11/2004 the owners opened a HELOC for $92,000 and withdrew all their downpayment plus another $45,500.
  • On 9/20/2004 they refinanced with a $552,000 first mortgage. 
  • On 8/16/2005 they opened a HELOC for $38,000.
  • On 12/8/2005 they opened a HELOC for $150,000.
  • On 6/8/2006 they refinanced with an Option ARM for $650,000 and a second mortgage of $115,000.
  • Total property debt of $765,000.
  • Total mortgage equity withdrawal of $393,000 over a 2 1/2 year period.
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    If you click the link you can see they are trying to sell for ~675k (~80k under from property debt).   The first thing that comes to my mind is past the first HELOC, who extends loans like this?  I mean what do you have to secure for the bank to offset a loan like the 2nd and 3rd HELOC ($188k! - almost 1/3rd the value of the house!)

    And we wonder why Freddie and Fannie might be looking for a gov't bailout...  which sucks because that means all of us who don't have 1/2 the "value" of our home wrapped up in outstanding LOCs paying a small part to bail out a company who decides to loan out stuff like the above. 

    From the post One interesting note: the second mortgage being wiped out is listed as being insured by either Freddie Mac or Fannie Mae.

     

     




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